Well, concerning a cure, in my view, you are not sure of a cure, but you can think about defining it as a patient that has lived for 20 years, we have those patients, and is free of disease, in complete remission, and MRD negative. That’s a cured patient. I think it is interesting that today, you talk about a cure. Four years ago, when I made the first allogeneic transplant, people just talked about having a chronic disease, making the disease chronic...
Well, concerning a cure, in my view, you are not sure of a cure, but you can think about defining it as a patient that has lived for 20 years, we have those patients, and is free of disease, in complete remission, and MRD negative. That’s a cured patient. I think it is interesting that today, you talk about a cure. Four years ago, when I made the first allogeneic transplant, people just talked about having a chronic disease, making the disease chronic. Today we talk about a cure as we did 40 years ago. And I think that’s great. And that change I appreciate very much. Well, I think NGS is the best method. That could be debated, of course, but I think so. But it’s not the proof that you are cured, that you have NGS-MRD negativity. You have to have it for a long time. But maybe after three, four years with NGS-MRD negativity, you may talk about a cure. Well, my advice would be to use the best possible treatment upfront. And in my view, that is a CAR T-cell directed therapy targeting even more than one antigen on myeloma cells and that will give a higher chance for an eventual cure.
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