So the CAPTIVATE study is one of those studies that I spoke about where there is limited duration therapy. It’s a combination of ibrutinib and venetoclax as frontline treatment and it enrolls patients with or without 17p disease. So that’s a study that has even longer follow up than what we have now. And what that showed is that you would take the combination of ibrutinib and venetoclax and you have a 17p deletion...
So the CAPTIVATE study is one of those studies that I spoke about where there is limited duration therapy. It’s a combination of ibrutinib and venetoclax as frontline treatment and it enrolls patients with or without 17p disease. So that’s a study that has even longer follow up than what we have now. And what that showed is that you would take the combination of ibrutinib and venetoclax and you have a 17p deletion. You have a median progression-free survival of five years, which is good, but not as good as continuous zanubrutinib in this study, which is 72%. There is one difference though. You will do relapse on continuous BTK therapy, and then at a time of relapse, you’re resistant to BTK inhibitors. In CAPTIVATE, patients take 12 months of treatment, and then they stop the therapy, and when they relapse, they remain sensitive to retreatment. So I think they’re both really good strategies for patients with 17p deletion CLL. One of them gives you a slightly longer progression-free survival, but you’re resistant to BTK inhibitors at the end of treatment. The other one gives you a slightly shorter progression-free survival, but it’s limited duration and you can be retreated at the time of relapse.
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