I’m going to break it into two for thalassemia and for sickle cell. For thalassemia, it’s so important. It’s first, depending on your centers and the region. So in the USA, you can have access to two medications. One, it is beta-cel that’s approved for age four and higher. So age is the first factor. The other medication, exa-cel, it is age 12 and higher...
I’m going to break it into two for thalassemia and for sickle cell. For thalassemia, it’s so important. It’s first, depending on your centers and the region. So in the USA, you can have access to two medications. One, it is beta-cel that’s approved for age four and higher. So age is the first factor. The other medication, exa-cel, it is age 12 and higher. Versus in the rest of the world, in Europe and in Asia, it is only exa-cel that is approved. So that will be the first factor within the thalassemia. Second, it is really the liver function. That is the most important factor that it is predicting both from iron overload impact on the liver and also on the heart. So pay attention to both of them. And there is discrepancy, not always like you sometimes see the liver iron, it is acceptable, but the heart may be actually more overloaded. So you have to really evaluate this too, carefully, because this is somewhat elective. Take your time in optimizing the iron overload status put this patient on two iron chelation, be more intense so you could decrease their risk, and even do more functional assay or testing like FibroScan or if needed liver biopsy to ensure that the liver is okay and not adding any risk.
For sickle cell, what I would say, it’s the psychosocial and the pain assessment. You really need to work collaboratively with the hematologist, who they know this patient a little bit better. That collaboration enables you to provide more holistic care for this patient, both in preparation and counseling them, but also prospectively after that, how they can go back. And second, it is the stem cell collection. You need to work with your apheresis team. This is the critical piece we learned from it. Apheresis, they do hundreds, if not thousands of collections for adult patients with multiple myeloma or lymphoma for CAR-T. The collection is simply just different. So there are some practical notes. I mentioned how they have to go deep in the well to collect because the stem cells tend to be a little bit lower. Number two, you need to get more blood volume around four times. And even the inlet flow, you need to slow it, the anticoagulation. So you have to work with the apheresis team and re-audit, do continuous improvement for your own product when you collect, and see how can you improve on that, and share and learn from other centers who may have collected a little bit more, specifically in sickle cell patients.
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