Yeah, so we do have cell therapy approved in CLL for patients who are refractory to BTK inhibitors, BCL2 inhibitors. Liso-cel has been studied alone and in combination with BTK inhibitors. A recent real-world analysis suggests that the responses to liso-cel may actually be somewhat better than what we have seen in initial studies. Of course, it’s an expensive treatment, which is still quite cumbersome and requires quite a lot of logistical preparation...
Yeah, so we do have cell therapy approved in CLL for patients who are refractory to BTK inhibitors, BCL2 inhibitors. Liso-cel has been studied alone and in combination with BTK inhibitors. A recent real-world analysis suggests that the responses to liso-cel may actually be somewhat better than what we have seen in initial studies. Of course, it’s an expensive treatment, which is still quite cumbersome and requires quite a lot of logistical preparation. But nevertheless, I do think patients who are progressing on BCL2 and BTK inhibitors need to be considered for CAR T-cells. The majority of patients will be candidates. I would say there are not that many patients who are poor candidates for CAR-T as the treatment is overall quite well tolerated. However, it’s not available in all regions. It’s not. Certainly, even in the United States, access to CAR-T is limited, even not just for CLL patients, but for non-Hodgkin lymphoma patients as well. You know, bispecifics are being developed at a rampant pace in non-Hodgkin lymphoma. There are frontline studies reading out which show high efficacy of bispecific CD20-CD3 targeting antibodies in frontline DLBCL, for example. And we have shown high efficacy of epcoritamab, a CD20-CD3 targeting bispecific antibody, in relapsed/refractory CLL in patients who are heavily pretreated, and it’s an easy off-the-shelf drug. So I actually would like to see more development of bispecifics in CLL. So that includes epcoritamab and mosunetuzumab, which I know is in clinical trials. There is also a CD19, CD3 targeting bispecific from AstraZeneca, surovatamig which also will be entering clinical studies in CLL. So cell therapy, T-cell engaging therapies are a very good choice for patients who are failing targeted therapies. And I think those might also move into earlier lines of therapy as we learn how to use them better.
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