We started quite recently using this combination. The first one approved is the combination of ibrutinib, the first in class, plus venetoclax. At this meeting, the updated results of the CAPTIVATE trial are presented, suggesting that this combination is highly effective and can achieve long-lasting disease control, because now we reached a 5.5 year follow-up. Recently the EMA approved just a few days ago the combination of acalabrutinib plus venetoclax taking into account the data from the AMPLIFY study, so we will have a second combination available in the near future that we can use in our patient population...
We started quite recently using this combination. The first one approved is the combination of ibrutinib, the first in class, plus venetoclax. At this meeting, the updated results of the CAPTIVATE trial are presented, suggesting that this combination is highly effective and can achieve long-lasting disease control, because now we reached a 5.5 year follow-up. Recently the EMA approved just a few days ago the combination of acalabrutinib plus venetoclax taking into account the data from the AMPLIFY study, so we will have a second combination available in the near future that we can use in our patient population. As I say this is a very effective combination with the BTK inhibitor leading. The majority of patients at the time of venetoclax administration does not carry a high risk of TLS because the lymph node shrinks and there is no very high value of lymphocytes in the peripheral blood. So we can safely start the ramp up of venetoclax and administer it without experiencing relevant toxicity in terms of TLS. And we are able to achieve very deep responses that allow us to stop treatment and let the patient get some treatment-free period.
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