Well, there’s been a lot of changes in the second line pathway for patients with, particularly, high-risk relapsed diffuse large B-cell. So primary refractory to front line treatment or relapsed within a year. And the key thing there is the availability of second line CAR-T, in particular axi-cel, based on the ZUMA-7 study. And the key thing though, and there’s quite good data showing that, even when patients are eligible, quite often there’s a big attrition rate...
Well, there’s been a lot of changes in the second line pathway for patients with, particularly, high-risk relapsed diffuse large B-cell. So primary refractory to front line treatment or relapsed within a year. And the key thing there is the availability of second line CAR-T, in particular axi-cel, based on the ZUMA-7 study. And the key thing though, and there’s quite good data showing that, even when patients are eligible, quite often there’s a big attrition rate. In other words, patients don’t necessarily get to CAR-T, and it’s for a number of reasons. Some are unavoidable, you know, the disease is just too aggressive. But sometimes actually, it’s just simply perhaps a lack of awareness in the referring clinicians or perhaps also people look at the trial and think, okay, I can only refer those sorts of patients for CAR-T, but actually we know from real world data now that, you know, things like certain comorbidities or age in and of themselves may not be a barrier for second or even third line CAR-T.
So I think the message is for referrers to talk to a CAR-T physician or their local CAR-T infusion center to enable, you know, that that flow of patients, and it’s important to do it efficiently because these diseases do grow quite quickly, so we’ve got to make sure that patients get there in a timely way.